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  • [ytcid:UgynFxBU8JpRO3plaZR4AaABAg] Man I love their music but their politics is just millionaire “let them eat cake” bs
  • [ytcid:UgxTNSSyiD6hUAG54554AaABAg] same here?
  • [ytcid:UgyRyFZoSUCRvTNLFQ54AaABAg] I'm so tired.. Nobody cares about this but I just want to get it out. BTS used to mean so much to me in a way I can't even begin to get into. I didn't always know about their controversies and when I found out sometimes I would do the mental gymnastics of defending them (to myself), not without criticism but so I could still enjoy their music and content because it literally helped me survive (dramatic, I know). I don't have social media and I haven't really been an active army for years. Now... with all this.. on top of everything else.. I'm so done, done in a way where I resign from the army after 13 years lol, I feel my emotional attachment to them and their work has been irreversibly severed.
  • [ytcid:UgyB_SLDt984HsWEZZ14AaABAg] I feel like posting content with chris brown music and collaborating with gemini is very intentional. BTS is basically saying that this is who they are and at this point people just need to accept it. They don't care and that's just all there is to it. I'm saying this as a former army.
  • [ytcid:UgzYsmcrR53zJXXgGb14AaABAg] Hot Take: BTS sucks and I'm pretty sure they lip-sync AND were they not eye candy for SOMEBODY(be forreal) and able to dance like a circus horse no one would care. It's the boyband craze all over again, we been here done that and guess what? Beetles fucking suck too. ?‍♂️
  • [ytcid:UgxmFY3Hajl7SbU4PAR4AaABAg] Look, BTS has built an entire brand around self-love, anti-violence and a fanbase made predominantly of women. Choosing to attend a concert for a man with a documented history of severe domestic violence isn’t "just a music taste preference" it’s a slap in the face to their own fans. Also, let's just stop lowering our moral standards just to protect grown men from valid criticism.
  • [ytcid:UgzmvZN2YkpSkJ3bLhV4AaABAg] This is a problem with the vast majority of kpop artists tbh. They have an international career but don't take that into consideration when it comes to NOT doing things. If you're doing world tours with hundreds of thousands of people paying to see your music, you have the duty to stick your head out of South Korea and peep around. It's quite likely that Korean fans don't know or don't care about Chris Brown's crimes. But t most of their fans are *not* Korean.
  • [ytcid:UgxWaPBOgXw2ZzPBdkZ4AaABAg] I didn’t know about the existence of CB; I knew that Rihanna had suffered abuse, but that was all. So I did a quick search, and that was enough to make me feel sickened. I haven’t experienced violence myself, but I’m sure that a large number of the Army have. That’s enough for me to demand consistency and reciprocity. My heart is broken.
  • [ytcid:UgyzI2IcD4qtFHTCrDF4AaABAg] Can we stop talking about them, I'm tired of this band
  • [ytcid:UgyBQQlr1NKtP-5qhod4AaABAg] kudos for the research
  • [ytcid:Ugyk-6q7t_wxTgAq-El4AaABAg] What did BTS do wrong? They simply attended a concert. Of course, I am well aware of the significant influence that comes with their status and profile. However, rather than demanding an apology from BTS, the right approach is to inform them about the problematic aspects of Chris Brown's behavior. Let me give you an example: just because Michael Jackson took a photo with Trump, it doesn't mean he endorsed the Epstein scandal, right? BTS does not maintain an ongoing relationship with Chris Brown; they simply went to enjoy the music. I hope people won't be too harsh on them, as their intentions were not malicious.
  • [ytcid:Ugxx9dqX7LZ7PR6L-XR4AaABAg] OH! But they won’t perform War of Hormone because it’s misogynistic alright
  • [ytcid:Ugyg138xJ02dcHT-pm94AaABAg] Let me be clear: their company acquired *TAG PR* if they “didn’t know” about Chris Brown’s history (I call bs on that) they definitely do now. Yet the only thing they’ve done so far is do a bunch of manipulative posts with either photos of fans cheering them on (sending a signal to amass unconditional support) or thirst traps to feed the shippers so that they’ll flood the tags with edits and reposts about that instead. I don’t think they think very highly of their fans’s intelligence but then again, I wouldn’t either if they had been nothing but yesmen for the entirety of my career.
  • [ytcid:UgzmBqGg9ix8LLvyzEd4AaABAg] CB calling a bts fan a ho3, but no one defending ARMY
  • [ytcid:UgzrFtXb6dgcZwq6yGV4AaABAg] Everything recent is so disappointing to me as a long time fan of their work from about 2019. Now, I was VERY young when I first started listening to them, and am still quite young now. I understand back in 2013 there was a lot of things wrong with the overall industry and some of the members were literal teenagers and may have actually been told to do something because of management. RM speaking English fluently always rubbed me the wrong way when it came to the blatant racism, but I do understand that he did grow up in Korea and may not have understood fully about the damage that had been done. That I think is fair to still have held them accountable for, but because the members were all so young and under management, it isn’t fair to assume the blame is entirely on them. But currently, they are one of if not the biggest bands in the world. Ignoring the money aspect, their influence is international. AI could affect their careers, but it will never affect it to the same extent of someone who had just lost their job because companies felt AI could do it better. Or the people who live in these awful conditions created by the massive energy and water usage to use these generative AI tools. Some people ARE required to use them for work, and it is hypocritical to immediately hate on someone for the use of AI, but in creative spaces I think it is certainly justified to criticize as well as thinking about the sheer scale of the fan base. It’s incredibly disappointing. The youngest of them is pushing thirty, meaning all the members are well into their thirties or late twenties. I am much younger than they are, and I feel like they should, as grown men, start being held accountable for what they currently endorse. It does not make their past mistakes okay, but I think now it is even more important to hold them accountable and responsible for these matters, and stop pretending as though it isn’t that deep, as some would like to say.